Healing in the AfterLoss

Healing in the AfterLossSecond and Fourth Thursdays

11:00 AM Pacific

Healing in the AfterLoss, a production of Boomer and The Babe, Inc., features co-hosts Benjamin Scott Allen, author of Out of the Ashes: Healing in the AfterLoss and Deborah Louise Brown.

This show is about healing loss. Whether it is the loss of a loved one, a relationship, a job, or a dream, we find ourselves lost in another world. What was before no longer is. This is the world of the Afterloss. It is our goal to share this world together and to help each other navigate this new experience. We are here to explore what was lost and what is left, and find a new way to relate to both.


Benjamin_headshotSeveral years ago Benjamin Scott Allen appeared extensively in the media beginning with the New York Times, Dateline, The Today Show, Good Morning America, 20/20 and various local newspapers, especially The Dallas Morning News. His story also featured on The Oprah Winfrey show. The subject matter focused on the tragic circumstances his family endured.

His wife received a blood transfusion infected with HIV during the birth of their first child. Consequently, his wife and their two children died, the first being in 1985 and the last death was in 1995.

In the midst of all this, one TV producer approached him to secure the rights to make a film about his life. He declined. Many people asked him to write his story, knowing how much it could potentially help others. He was not ready.

Finally, after many years of emotional and spiritual exploration, he came to a place of peace. This book, “Out of The Ashes,” details that journey. Portraying normal people in abnormal situations, the book shows how he, and those he loved and lost, came to a deeper connection with life in the embrace of death. It is an examination of what grief can take, but what it can also give. It is not a book about AIDS. It is a book that offers practical tips for dealing with any type of grief and moving into acceptance and healing.

Benjamin has worked with grieving individuals and groups for decades. He has also been trained and certified by The Grief Recovery® Institute (GRI). Benjamin began his career as a Southern Baptist minister and was the pastor of Pacifica Baptist Church in California. He worked for the Christian Life Commission of the Baptist General Convention of Texas from 1985-1991. He was the founding Director of the Dallas AIDS Interfaith Network, and a member of the Texas Legislative Task Force on AIDS and the National AIDS Commission. From 1991-1995 he worked with the HIV Research Group at the University of Texas Southwestern Medical School in Dallas, Texas. Southwestern Medical School in Dallas, Texas.

He now lives at Lake Tahoe, Nevada where he delivers corporate training and personal and business growth programs.


Deborah Louise BrownIn addition to being an author, coach and speaker, Deborah Louise Brown is a wordsmith, a world-traveler, and an avid people-watcher.  She helps people find their power and peace using ordinary observations to create extraordinary outcomes.

A well-traveled childhood and lifelong quest for knowledge about what makes people tick inform Deborah’s unique world view. She has taken her own journey of introspection and self-assessment and shares that journey freely with her audience and clients.

Deborah has lived in five countries, nine states, and 30 cities and she attended ten elementary schools. One can see how resilience, optimism, courage and kindness would be forged from a lifestyle where being the new kid is something to roll with, not shrink from.

Deborah brings her skills as insightful interviewer and avid listener to The Boomer and The Babe Show, her five-day-a-week radio talk show that celebrates the second half of life. She and Pete, the other half of the dynamic boomer duo, delight in the “gifts of story” shared by their guests.  She proves the show’s original premise and slogan: AT 50, YOU’RE JUST GETTING STARTED.